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		<title>Debian on my Beige G3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I got Debian GNU/Linux on my desktop Power Macintosh G3 &#8220;Beige&#8221; BUT, to do this I bought MacOS 9 CD for 20 dollars on ebay: Because I broke pre-installed MacOS by trying to install Debian on this &#8220;OldWorld&#8221; mac (see here). So, after installing MacOS 9 back I again tried to install Debian (using [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I got Debian GNU/Linux on my desktop <a href="http://shaos.net/blog/2009/02/desktop-power-macintosh-g3-beige.html">Power Macintosh G3 &#8220;Beige&#8221;</a> BUT, to do this I bought MacOS 9 CD for 20 dollars on ebay:</p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/MacOS9-707264.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 399px;" src="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/MacOS9-707134.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Because I broke pre-installed MacOS by trying to install Debian on this &#8220;OldWorld&#8221; mac (see <a href="http://shaos.net/blog/2009/02/desktop-power-macintosh-g3-beige.html">here</a>). So, after installing MacOS 9 back I again tried to install Debian (using BootX 1.2.2 from MacOS). After a number of tries of reinstallation of both I realized that MacOS 9 and Debian CAN&#8217;T live on the same hard-drive, because they are breaking partition table for each other&#8230;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d decided to go to ebay again &#8211; now for SCSI drive. 18 GB IBM SCSI drive (1997) with 50-pin adapter was just 30 dollars plus 4 for cable and 11 for shipping.</p>
<p>Important things about installation on Beige G3:
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<li>it will fail to detect printer, simply go back to menu and choose installation again;</li>
<li>bootloader <span style="font-style: italic;">quik</span> requires ext2 partition for /boot (even if it&#8217;s not needed &#8211; I pressed NO later to disable bootloader installation);</li>
<li>it is important to save vmlinux and initrd.img on ZIP-drive before reboot &#8211; we will need it in MacOS for BootX loader &#8211; so go to shell and do <span style="font-weight: bold;">chroot /target</span> then <span style="font-weight: bold;">mount /dev/hdd4 /mnt</span> then <span style="font-weight: bold;">cd /boot</span><span> then </span><span style="font-weight: bold;">cp vmlinux /mnt</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;">cp initrd.img /mnt</span> then <span style="font-weight: bold;">umount /mnt </span>then <span style="font-weight: bold;">exit</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;">exit</span> to go to menu back;</li>
<li>then just finish installation process. </li>
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<p>So now I have MacOS 9.2.2 on EIDE hard-drive and GNU/Linux on SCSI hard-drive &#8211; separately they work fine. After boot computer goes to MacOS first and then using BootX loader I can choose to go to Linux (copy vmlinux and initrd.img to <span style="font-style: italic;">Linux Kernels</span> first).</p>
<p>Inside Linux I traditionally have Russian user interface:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/BeigeDebian-710709.png"><img style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/BeigeDebian-710704.png" alt="" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>P.S. After installation of Debian 4.0r7 from NetInst CD I found that during installation it&#8217;s magically transformed to Debian 5.0 &#8220;Lenny&#8221; that was released just now <img src="https://shaos.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>P.P.S. So if you need cheap PowerPC machine for Linux, DON&#8217;T buy Beige G3! Better choice is Blue&amp;White PowerMac G3 that can be bought just for $9.99 (plus $32.50 for shipping) in <a href="http://www.wegenermedia.com/g3bwtwr.htm">some places</a> (300 MHz, 64 MB RAM, no HDD) &#8211; see <a href="http://shaos.net/blog/2009/06/power-mac-g3-for-10-bucks.html">here</a> story how I got it</p>
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		<title>Desktop Power Macintosh G3 &quot;Beige&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaos]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few days ago I bought Power Macintosh G3 with PowerPC G3 processor (300MHz) for 25 dollars (and 45 shipping):It has old Apple monitor connector and because of that I needed VGA-adapter (5 dollars on ebay) to connect my Samsung 19&#8243; monitor to this machine:It was shipped with MacOS 9 onboard that can handle screen [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago I bought <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Macintosh_G3">Power Macintosh G3</a> with PowerPC G3 processor (300MHz) for 25 dollars (and 45 shipping):<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-Front-758363.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 115px;" src="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-Front-758184.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />It has old Apple monitor connector and because of that I needed VGA-adapter (5 dollars on ebay) to connect my Samsung 19&#8243; monitor to this machine:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-Back-712049.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 144px;" src="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-Back-711808.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />It was shipped with MacOS 9 onboard that can handle screen dimension up to 1280&#215;1024 (with 256 colors):<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-MacOS-746059.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer; width: 259px; height: 400px;" src="http://shaos.net/blog/uploaded_images/Beige-MacOS-746050.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />After setup Internet connection through Ethernet, I immediately tried to install Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 on it, BUT it is last &#8220;OldWorld&#8221; macintosh with buggy Open Firmware v2.4 that can boot only from MacOS (trick with patch from &#8220;SystemDisk 2.3.1&#8243; didn&#8217;t help). I used BootX 1.2.2 to boot Debian installer directly from MacOS and removed MacOS to install Debian (it was my mistake) and after that this machine refused to boot. So now I&#8217;m waiting for MacOS 9.2.2 disk (another 20 dollars) to install it again and then I will use Debian through BootX only&#8230;</p>
<p>Updated: Success story of Debian installation is <a href="http://shaos.net/blog/2009/02/debian-on-my-beige-g3.html">here</a></p>
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